Comments for Preservation Research Office http://preservationresearch.com Working at the Intersection of Architectural History and Cultural Memory Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 7): “Pride” and the Mall by Rgbose http://preservationresearch.com/2012/01/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-7-pride-and-the-mall/comment-page-1/#comment-18312 Rgbose Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:34:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2724#comment-18312 So sad to see them go.  What a shame.  Those buildings would be so desired today.  How do people who don't see the value get into positions of power? So sad to see them go.  What a shame.  Those buildings would be so desired today.  How do people who don’t see the value get into positions of power?

]]> Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 7): “Pride” and the Mall by samizdat http://preservationresearch.com/2012/01/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-7-pride-and-the-mall/comment-page-1/#comment-18311 samizdat Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:12:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2724#comment-18311 Shit, your breaking my heart all over again. I lived through the debacle that was the Scheomehl admins Mall Plan. Seeing those beautiful buildings (which were at least partially occupied before the whole mess began) brought down for something so tawdry and utterly lacking in aesthetic appeal as what currently sits there was gut-wrenching. The whole Mall idea should have been aborted from the get go, but unfortunately there are always ignorant pols and the stoopid wealthy (whose taste is all in their mouths) running around like gadflies making a fuss over their pet projects. A horrible, shameful enterprise that never should have come to fruition. It's like getting kicked in the nuts... Shit, your breaking my heart all over again. I lived through the debacle that was the Scheomehl admins Mall Plan. Seeing those beautiful buildings (which were at least partially occupied before the whole mess began) brought down for something so tawdry and utterly lacking in aesthetic appeal as what currently sits there was gut-wrenching. The whole Mall idea should have been aborted from the get go, but unfortunately there are always ignorant pols and the stoopid wealthy (whose taste is all in their mouths) running around like gadflies making a fuss over their pet projects. A horrible, shameful enterprise that never should have come to fruition.

It’s like getting kicked in the nuts…

]]> Comment on “The Pruitt Igoe Myth”: Free Screening and Panel Discussion Tomorrow by nate http://preservationresearch.com/2012/02/the-pruitt-igoe-myth-free-screening-and-panel-discussion-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-18309 nate Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:21:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2728#comment-18309 Is this event open to the public? Is this event open to the public?

]]> Comment on Laclede Town Remembered by Anonymous http://preservationresearch.com/2009/10/laclede-town-remembered/comment-page-1/#comment-18308 Anonymous Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:19:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=1559#comment-18308 I spent the summer of 1970 in LaClede Town.  It was indeed a fabulous place.  I will never forget the sense of community.  I was very sad to hear of its demise! I spent the summer of 1970 in LaClede Town.  It was indeed a fabulous place.  I will never forget the sense of community.  I was very sad to hear of its demise!

]]> Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 8): The Gateway Mall Master Plan by Alex Ihnen http://preservationresearch.com/2012/02/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-8-the-gateway-mall-master-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-18306 Alex Ihnen Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:01:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2726#comment-18306 "Rather than address crucial problems of identity, circulation and boundaries, the new Master Plan treated those as secondary causes by offering a remedy not to the idea of a Gateway Mall but to its execution." Could be said of much more than the Gateway Mall. The absolute inviolability of this wasteland is baffling and will continue to act as a detriment to downtown.  “Rather than address crucial problems of identity, circulation and boundaries, the new Master Plan treated those as secondary causes by offering a remedy not to the idea of a Gateway Mall but to its execution.”

Could be said of much more than the Gateway Mall. The absolute inviolability of this wasteland is baffling and will continue to act as a detriment to downtown. 

]]> Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 8): The Gateway Mall Master Plan by Douglas Duckworth http://preservationresearch.com/2012/02/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-8-the-gateway-mall-master-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-18305 Douglas Duckworth Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:23:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2726#comment-18305 Structural as in it's too big for a city which is in decline.   You can''t demolish your way to growth.  St. Louis tried that.  It does not work.   Structural as in it’s too big for a city which is in decline.   You can”t demolish your way to growth.  St. Louis tried that.  It does not work.  

]]> Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 7): “Pride” and the Mall by Douglas Duckworth http://preservationresearch.com/2012/01/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-7-pride-and-the-mall/comment-page-1/#comment-18304 Douglas Duckworth Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:06:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2724#comment-18304 Yeah, but as Michael pointed out Citygarden was some fine buildings.  They were small, would have commanded low rents.  Cities are about people and people like cheap rents in historic buildings.  We have enough parks and green space.  The Gateway Mall is a failure and will continue to be until its abandoned.  Too bad we don't have enough demand for new construction to abandon it.  In this respect we are path dependent.  The institutions that decide this was a good idea are still around and we don't have the capacity to do otherwise.  Yeah, but as Michael pointed out Citygarden was some fine buildings.  They were small, would have commanded low rents.  Cities are about people and people like cheap rents in historic buildings.  We have enough parks and green space.  The Gateway Mall is a failure and will continue to be until its abandoned.  Too bad we don’t have enough demand for new construction to abandon it.  In this respect we are path dependent.  The institutions that decide this was a good idea are still around and we don’t have the capacity to do otherwise. 

]]> Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 7): “Pride” and the Mall by Douglas Duckworth http://preservationresearch.com/2012/01/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-7-pride-and-the-mall/comment-page-1/#comment-18303 Douglas Duckworth Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:03:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2724#comment-18303 Attract jobs and suburbanites.  That's it.  Attract jobs and suburbanites.  That’s it. 

]]> Comment on The Palladium Made St. Louis Music History; What Will We Make of the Palladium? by Jakester5025 http://preservationresearch.com/2011/12/the-palladium-made-st-louis-music-history-what-will-we-make-of-the-palladium/comment-page-1/#comment-18302 Jakester5025 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:56:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2679#comment-18302 Get hold of Kevin Belford in Kirkwood. Get hold of Kevin Belford in Kirkwood.

]]> Comment on The Evolution of the Gateway Mall (Part 7): “Pride” and the Mall by Eric Rogers http://preservationresearch.com/2012/01/the-evolution-of-the-gateway-mall-part-7-pride-and-the-mall/comment-page-1/#comment-18301 Eric Rogers Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:12:00 +0000 http://preservationresearch.com/?p=2724#comment-18301 Wow, this is amazingly depressing. Wow, this is amazingly depressing.

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